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		<title>Thoughts on Tagging in KDE SC 4</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Fritz</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[No screenshots because I&#8217;m lazy, but I&#8217;m trying to figure out searching in Dolphin in KDE SC 4. It&#8217;s&#8230;interesting. I&#8217;ve in the past put a lot of time and effort into tagging photos and images only to have my Digikam database die on an upgrade. As long as the data doesn&#8217;t stay with the files, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No screenshots because I&#8217;m lazy, but I&#8217;m trying to figure out searching in Dolphin in KDE SC 4.  It&#8217;s&#8230;interesting.<span id="more-158"></span></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve in the past put a lot of time and effort into tagging photos and images only to have my Digikam database die on an upgrade.  As long as the data doesn&#8217;t stay with the files, I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ll ever trust tagging, even though I really want to use it.</p>
<p>I keep images in ~/Images/, and my desktop wallpapers in ~/Images/Desktop/.  I may have an image such as ~/Images/Sailormoon/Ami.jpg and a wallpaper such as ~/Images/Desktop/Sailormoon/Sailormercury.jpg.  I would love to see the say where I can remove ~/Images/Desktop/, relocating the images inside to their subfolders in ~/Images/, then use tagging to tag desktop images for easy locating.  (Actually, if I could set images with specific heights and width to be auto-tagged with &#8220;wallpaper&#8221;, that would be most excellent; I wonder if that Dropbox plugin I&#8217;ve heard about would have this implemented if submitted as a feature request&#8230;)</p>
<p>I decided I&#8217;d try tagging some files in Dolphin to play around with it.  I went into ~/Images/Petite Princess Yucie/ and tagged everything with &#8220;Petite Princess Yucie&#8221;.  Then I did a Dolphin search for &#8220;yucie&#8221; and it returned&#8230;a bunch of random files.  Likewise with &#8220;petite princess yucie&#8221; (without and with quotes).  I followed this with a search for &#8220;petiteprincessyucie&#8221;, and after quite a lengthy wait &#8230; after twenty minutes of waiting for results, I gave up on it.  It turns out, the key to searching by tag is to search for &#8220;hasTag:&#8217;Petite Princess Yucie&#8217;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Something I would love to see is to give my tags a key/value association, similar to EXIF data.  Sure, I can tag an image as &#8220;Strawberry Marshmallow&#8221; and &#8220;BARASUI&#8221; and &#8220;Matsuri&#8221;, but I would like to be able to tag it as &#8220;Series:Strawberry Marshmallow&#8221; and &#8220;Artist:BARASUI&#8221; and &#8220;Character:Matsuri&#8221;.  This should allow finding the file when searching for the value, but the key could be used to filter the search, much like filtering &#8220;artist:name&#8221; in Amarok.  (Edit: Apparently <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160144#c4">this is in the works</a>, or at least <em>planned</em>.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually decided to go with tagging such as &#8220;Character:Matsuri&#8221;, and I notice that it&#8217;s adding blank tags into the tag list that opens when adding/changing tags.  That is worrisome, making me think I&#8217;m on the path to having so many tag problems that I&#8217;ll have to delete the entire database file which stores this information later down the line&#8230;</p>
<p>Final thought for now: Don&#8217;t try to tag 1,000+ images at once.  Dolphin&#8217;s been frozen for a while just from my clicking on the text to bring up the &#8220;add tag&#8221; window.</p>
<p>Update: I killed the Dolphin process.  I re-ran Dolphin, went to tag other images, and found that nothing is tagged.  Either the hour of tagging I just did was already in vain, or something crashed so that I can&#8217;t access those tags.  Maybe in SC 4.5&#8230;</p>
<p>Giving a minimal, very limited re-try, tagging with &#8220;Artist:Barasui&#8221; left me with only a blank tag in the tag list.  Re-tagging with it left me with the blank tag and the &#8220;Artist:Barasui&#8221; tag in the tag list.  Adding &#8220;Series:Strawberry Marshmallow&#8221; left me with &#8220;Artist:Barasui&#8221; and a blank tag in the tag list.  Adding &#8220;Artist:Barasui&#8221; again leaves me with a blank tag, &#8220;Artist:Barasui&#8221;, and Artist:Barasui in the tag list.  I think Nepomuk doesn&#8217;t like a colon in a tag.</p>
<p>Further update: Closing Dolphin and re-opening Dolphin has wiped out my tags again.</p>
<p>Update 20100302: I updated KDE from the Kubuntu repositories, and everything is looking good now.  I had filed a bug report one <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=227898">using colons in tags</a>, and <a href="http://www.behindkde.org/people/trueg/">Sebastian Trüg</a> logged in a bug fix.  Others may have fixed unrelated fixes, as well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to remain cautious, as I don&#8217;t know what other bugs may wipe out all my tags.  I&#8217;ll keep Digikam using its own tagging system for quite some time yet to come.  But things have taken a delightful positive turn, so I&#8217;m looking forward to tagging files!  (In moderation, to begin with.)</p>
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